Talk:Jim Crow laws

References to Jim Crow earlier than those stated in the article.

Frederick Douglass, in his My Bondage and My Freedom published in 1855 (David W. Blight, ed.) refers to a "Jim Crow Car" in the railroad on which he traveled in Massachusetts. It appears on p. 320 in the Yale University Press edition, edited by David W. Blight, and published in 2014. On that page in a footnote, the editor says that the term "was already common parlance in the 1850s." 132.64.128.158 (talk) 14:46, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2025

I request for the Category:Politics and race in the United States and Category:Race and law in the United States to be added to the External links. 2A0A:EF40:13BC:E001:AD3E:B60C:44CF:AF69 (talk) 18:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done Added to categories Aston305 (talk) 18:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2025 (3)

I also request for the Category:Apartheid and the Category:History of racial segregation in the United States to be added to the External links. 2A0A:EF40:13BC:E001:AD3E:B60C:44CF:AF69 (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Jim Crow laws and Apartheid aren't really related. They did the same thing but they aren't the same system. Aston305 (talk) 20:35, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

 Partly done: Added category of History of racial segregation in the US, but not apartheid as per above. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2025

I request for the Category:Crimes against humanity to be added to the External links, since the Wikipedia page for the Apartheid is under the Category:Crimes against humanity. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:80B7:CA4C:DC41:2FED (talk) 14:29, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: Apartheid was named a "crime against humanity" by the ICC according to the article. On the other hand, the term "crime against humanity" does not appear in this article. If you want the category added, the first step would be adding content to the article body describing Jim Crow laws as crimes against humanity, cited to a reliable source. – Anne drew (talk · contribs) 17:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC) – Anne drew (talk · contribs) 17:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2025

I request for the White Australia policy to be added to the See also section of the main page. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:990D:43BF:E3F4:3394 (talk) 15:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done - I've added the link in the See also section. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 17:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2025

I request for the Natives Land Act, 1913 to be added to the See also section of the main page, please. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:114D:2380:BE56:897B (talk) 12:12, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. (Acer's userpage |what did I do now) 12:45, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

The Natives Land Act, 1913 happened in South Africa, which is the same country where the Apartheid later happened and the Apartheid is already on the See also section of the main page. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:B441:9CE9:46DD:9F0D (talk) 13:45, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2025 (2)

I request for the Natives Land Act, 1913 to be added to the See also section of the main page, please. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:114D:2380:BE56:897B (talk) 16:58, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: As stated in the article, "Jim Crow" is a term specifically assocaited with laws in the United States. While the Natives Land act is certainly reprehensible, I don't think there's a sufficiently direct connection to warrant inclusion in the "see also" here. Feel free to open a discussion for consensus to see if more people disagree with me than agree. PianoDan (talk) 17:31, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2025

I request for the Natives Land Act, 1913 and Casta to be added to the See also section, since the Apartheid and the White Australia policy are already in the See also section. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:8863:4333:29F6:9679 (talk) 16:34, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

 Done. Good suggestion, thanks. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Acceptable edit to the "See Also" section---if it remains in "See Also." Scholarship on nativism and indigenism, or derivative arguments, could possibly serve as an additional citation in "See Also." One major issue is post-apartheid South African flexibility with municipal and local codes that advance hyperdescent over hypodescent, and vice-versa. Afrikaner as a classification arose among Cape Coloureds, likely denoting "mixed-race Cape whites" who appropriated the apartheid-imposed Coloureds designation as an ethno-racial intersection. Due to the history of U.S. legal and social apparatuses mostly, but not exclusively, shifting from Jim Crow hypodescent to post-Jim-Crow hyperdescent (the new Jim Crow can reconfigure it, for better or for worse), the history of apartheid categories and the history of one-drop Jim Crow laws wove and weaves a tangled web. In the present day, "mixed-race black" or "mixed-race Native American" are increasingly more circulated than "mixed-race white [Irish American, etc.]", albeit in U.S. political discourse. On that note, you may or may not wish to elucidate the ideas of Hendrik Verwoerd, and his studies (lectures?) in the United States, to the International subsection. I would avoid 1990s sociological texts such as American Apartheid and chicken-before-the-egg debates vis-a-vis a common British colonial provenance, but that's at the discretion of the user. Bustamove1 (talk) 18:50, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2025

I request for the Category:Racial segregation to be added to the External links, please. 2A0A:EF40:1266:8501:31C3:17F1:6DAB:9226 (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

 Not done. Good faith edit request is denied, as Category:History of racial segregation in the United States - a subcategory of the requested category - is already listed. It would be redundant to add the parent category as well. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 17:41, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Not just "it would be redundant" and therefore any one of us might not want it, but it's actually against WP:CAT guidelines for that reason. DMacks (talk) 17:44, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2025

I request for the Native Lands Act 1865 to be added to the See also section please. 2A0A:EF40:1395:D501:EDD7:4ED2:E853:DD01 (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2025 (UTC)